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Something for nothing
  Paper presented at the 8th Annual Qualitative Methods Conference: "Something for nothing"
1 May to 30 September 2002 (http://criticalmethods.org/p102.mv)
What constitutes a Massurreality?
Cecil Touchon

Contact e-mail: cecil@touchon.com




Breaking it down into three components:

MASS:

This is a reference to mass media - Television, movies, electronic, digital, computer influence, ads, print, billboard & other means as art. A new generation of artists are living in the age of mass-media, the internet, nuclear devices, and genetic engineering and the perennial question of what does it all mean? The details of daily life.

SUR:

(Super) - Sur is interesting because it can have two meanings which are opposite of each other Transcendental / Superficial. If you combine these meanings you have the completion - "Mind is Heaven and Hell. The akasha or accommodation is not so different from the sky. Sky we see at day or night: in the day there is a single torch yet all illumination; in the night there are many lamps, yet darkness. Sky at night is like the mind replete with knowledge of names and forms -- it is still in darkness -- while sky at day is like illuminated mind." (Samuel Lewis)

In this sense we are mostly discussing night conditions - many lights, yet darkness.

REALITY:

This is a reference more to Consensus Reality than any other- The one assumed to be experienced by all used by mass media - average, sensual reality, This is the one surrealism is 'surring' from.

Surrealism: of course, this is the original movement that is the basis of Massurrealism but taking into account the growth of advertising, mass media, widened perspective, Pop Art, capitalism, etc.

The Massurreality then, is an overarching surrogate humo-centric reality constructed by humanity which forms a part of and is intertwined within the Unified Field of Dogma.

The current modernist version is not unlike what Guy Debord calls the Society of the Spectacle. However, we shall refer here to the Massurreality in a more positive way than Debord's more alienating and negative critique of modern society that he called the Society of the Spectacle.

The Massurreality is gradually growing into all economic and geographic sectors of humanity driven by the ubiquitous corporate desire for constant economic expansion. This expansion brings with it the program of the continuous, mantric repetition of positive advertising messages about the commodities that these corporate entities wish to sell to the general consumer population in order to inspire in it the sense of need for the commodities which are presented. A central theme of these laudatory messages is that through the purchase of these commodities the consumer not only receives the physical product itself but, by imbibing the product, is additionally imbued with all of the positive traits shown in the commercials and is tacitly accepted as a member of modern society.

But wait! That's not all.

In order for corporations to manufacture a need for their products there must first be in place the instruments of communicating their persuasive arguments regarding those products which will bequeath the modern dream upon those who are assumed to so badly be in need of it and who, ironicly, come to regard themselves has having developed such a need.

These instruments of communication, in their most powerful form - television and radio - provide exciting and entertaining images that implant the dream of belonging in the mind of a receptive audience. This milieu of tele-visual mass media communication provides what has become the bi product of the corporate desire for expansion which is the knowledge of the cultural envelope - via news, entertainment and sporting events - that are provided as content between the central purpose of tele-visual media namely to transmit corporate advertising messages. Thus, the corporate process of manufacture, distribution and retail availability of the wide range of advertised products of modern society is the backbone of this spreading denatured, refined and enriched massurreality in which most are engulfed. The 'content' serving to flesh out the cultural context in which products may find their consumer base.

Through this massurreality we accept by default our individual identities chosen and built from a pre-established menu of dreams and social conventions at the center of which is our identity as a modern consumer of products. The messages within our massurreality are all orchestrated before us in a cacophony of seeming related information of various types.

However, upon analysis there is no relation between one message and the next other than the fact that they share the same form of media presentation giving a visual uniformity that we assume suggests an underlying unity of purpose.

What better symbol then, for this human condition than that of the empty shopping cart - an empty shopping cart on an empty parking lot at night with a waning moon. As a sign, this image carries the revolutionary message of the Massurrealist. There are a number of interpretations of this sign and all of them are equally valid within our Massurrealist Society. Let us survey some of the possibilities.

The first and most obvious corollary that may be made is the image of the empty shopping cart and that of the Ox herding pictures from the Zen tradition. In particular the 8th picture

http://www.jaysquare.com/ljohnson/ox-herding.html

Additionally we can think of the massurreality as a contemporary appearance of Maya as it is thought of in the Hindu tradition:

http://hinduwebsite.com/beliefinmaya.htm

The empty shopping cart in this instance also represents enlightenment and to empty one's self of elusive and illusionary desires and concepts artificially implanted in our minds through the massurreality we are immersed in.

The empty shopping cart symbolizes the mind emptied of desire; the self emptied of identity and the futility of reliance on the emptiness and bankruptcy of the material consumer culture, the commodities of which act in general as the talismans and icons that give us comport in our Massurrealist identities.

The waning crescent moon supports this conclusion since it is a symbol of receptivity and turning within symbolizing our nearly coming full circle in our relationship with the world as consumer, as spectator and participant in the construction and maintenance of the massurreality we find our selves in and seeking to master.

This by no means exhausts the meanings of this sign but serves only as a beginning of the dialog on the topic.

http://massurrealist.com/

 
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21 May 2003 - Thank you for your comments once again. I am sorry to hear that you continue to be bitterly disappointed by what I have said and how I have gone about saying it. I am afraid I seem to be incapable of the level of verbal clarity that you require. Is my linkage between shopping carts and ancient traditions the issue? Upon a deeper inspection you may notice that I am not referring so much to the ancient tradition per se as to a spiritual condition recognized since ancient times in those images. The Ox Herding pictures are both visual and widely known. These are the main reasons for their usage and the referenced image of emptiness and all that it means in relation to a shopping card seems amply explained to me but maybe not.

You assume that I see the ‘people’ as dupes. I don’t believe I make any such judgment but instead clearly state that I see the massurreality in a more positive context than, for instance, Guy Debord.

The entirely of my paper – after all - is to give a rough definition of the term “Massurreality and I do not believe that I make any claim that any member of the Massurrealist Society International operates outside of this ‘envelope’ described as the massurreality nor do I offer any solution other than to ponder the drawing to which I refer which currently may be seen at http://massurrealism.com/ in relation to the possible technique of achieving a certain empty condition.

As far as “iconic meaningfulness” I said precisely what I meant. An icon is a visual image that conveys symbolic significance – even if that significance is yet to be fleshed out and actually, I was making references to Taoism (as compared to Buddhism) at the location to which I believe you refer.

The obvious corollary to which I refer between the Ox Herding Picture (#8) and the shopping cart is the quality of ‘emptiness’. Yes, I see what you mean, perhaps I should explain that in greater detail. I personally would rather have a person look at the shopping cart and look at the 8th image and then make the leap without shaping the experience too much but perhaps more context is required.

Anyway, one of these days, if I ever have the time to do so, I may attempt to raise this paper out of the dismal condition it seems to be in and use your suggestions and objections as a way to shape its future incarnation. Again, Than you for your comments.
- Cecil Touchon
12 May 2003 - I see you have selected a quote of mine and used it out of context. The point is not whether or not 'your' interpretations are valid. Indeed, they cannot be refuted on those grounds. The issue is with your linkage between shopping carts and ancient traditions. You see the majority of people as dupes in the consumer world, but somehow the massurealists can escape this through weak interpretations and a misunderstanding of ancient traditions. Random connections and artistic pretense do nothing to change the world for the better. Your 'paper' does not allow for other interpretations nor give any explanation as to how these interpretations are arrived at. You also state that you wish to give some "iconic meaningfulness to the shopping cart". I assume you actually mean symbolic, as icons merely link signified with signifier at the first order of signification. That is, an icon of a shopping cart physically resembles a shopping cart. Following from that you have indexical readings, such as the uses of a shopping cart, which then links to the third order of signification, the symbolic. This level brings in the ideological, such as capitalism, or in your case Buddhism. If you are going to use semiotics then at least do so correctly.

You have yet to arrive at an answer as to why the ox-herding picture is "the most obvious corollary"? Could this not be contextualised somewhat? Second major problem is the notion that identities are accepted by default - yet you talk of revolutionary redefining and so forth. How is this possible under such oppressive circumstances of mass mediated messages and consumer culture? Apparently a simple link to ox-herding pictures from the Buddhist tradition (not Zen, it is not a tradition but part of one) liberates us????

The logical inconsistancy within your text refutes itself. If identities are accepted by default and people are powerless then one cannot escape that reality or redefine it to mean something positive.

18 Mar 2003 - Dear Michael,
you wrote:"Do not make such grandiose claims that refute personal subjectivities and other interpretations, your own are not the only one's that are valid. "

You are a funny guy.
12 Feb 2003 - The 'qualities' that you list are not natural but culturally/socially contrived to suit certain purposes. Their existence is based solely upon a function assigned to shopping carts. My issue is not to whether or not these qualities 'exist', but to the link with ancient traditions. It appears to be only 'artistic' pretense and a weak attempt to be deep and meaningful. I would suggest some engagement with comments made over the past 8 months and not a knee-jerk reaction and defensive posturing. The claims and links made throughout your paper are tenuous at best and made up at random by yourself at worst. Do not make such grandiose claims that refute personal subjectivities and other interpretations, your own are not the only one's that are valid. No person's identity is accepted by default as you claim. Identities are always contested - you and the 'massurrealists are not the only one's with such an ability. As for me rewriting your paper for you, I cannot be bothered to engage further with what can only be deemed to be intellectually trite. - Michael
24 Oct 2002 - I am sorry that it has taken me so long to reply.
Firstly I feel a need to address this shopping cart issue because it is a central aspect of this paper.
This statement on your part Michael; "The cart has no qualities in and of itself." is clearly an untruth and perhaps your assumption that your statement contains some truth which can be argued convincingly causes you to carry on a needless argument as it is an argument without basis if it rests upon the aforementioned statement.
A shopping cart has very clear qualities and very specific intended uses let us take a partial inventory of them and let this serve as an analysis
1) a shopping cart whether made of plastic or metal is normally made out of an open grid or netting. This is for preventing certain troubles.
a) I assume that they include the intention to allow liquids spilled in the cart or rain which might fall into a cart from collecting in the cart.
b) for the purpose of being durable yet light weight
2) a shopping cart has a horizontal handle designed to be comfortable for women to push around the store isles and a basket like space which is intended to hold consumer products and small child fledgling consumers. (Items are often stacked in stores to encourage small children to desire them from their perspective as a passenger in the shopping cart.)
3) a shopping card has four small wheels, their size and design are intended for use on a flat smooth floor and to be unwieldy on rougher surfaces to discourage use outside of the intended environment (when the user is no longer functioning as a consumer) and in some places the wheels and the parameter of the parking area are designed in such a way as to prevent the carts from being rolled outside of the area.
4) shopping carts have a wedge design with a swinging back wall so that the carts may be horizontally 'stacked' or nested within each other for the purpose of compact storage when not in use and so that store attendants may gather them together on the parking lots and bring them back to the storage area with the greatest possible efficiency
5) a shopping cart is smooth to the touch and durable, relatively immune to the elements and easy to clean for reasons of maintaining the image of newness as well as serving a public hygiene purpose.
6) shopping carts can be so big or so small but only within a very clear practical range because of the intended use they are designed for.
7) shopping carts require a certain context for their use,
a) the fact that people drive cars
b) the fact that there are large stores with many packaged products which imply that a consumer will buy more consumer objects than can be carried in the hand.
In short, a shopping cart is designed to serve a wide variety of related functions, to encourage certain activities and to discourage certain other activities. These are qualities and they are qualities which are very consciously designed onto the shopping cart's physical nature. These qualities are irrefutable and it is futile to argue to the contrary.

Given these qualities, as you mention, there are possible poetic interpretations which can be drawn which may be regarded as plausible and others which are less so. I have in my paper drawn corollaries from ancient spiritual traditions that serve to give an iconic meaningfulness to the shopping cart. (Let me add that the netting of the cart can easily carry the image from the Tao te Ching in the last lines of chapter #73 “Sparsely meshed is Harmony's net, yet, nothing escapes it.” or “Fate's net is vast and its mesh is coarse, Yet none escape it.” or “Heaven's net is vast. It is loose. Yet nothing slips through.”)

So taking in the big picture… My paper is in essence an attempt to briefly give a definition to the term ‘massurreality’ but doing so I am setting the stage for the further development of ideas generated using this definition as a basis of what constitutes the general range of inquiry on the topic. Since I am acting as Webster so to speak I may define the term in in whatever manor I deem to adequately articulate what I see as the most useful artistic meaning of this term. Without such a definition, the idea of a massurreality is too ambiguous to work with as a starting point, there is nothing graspable for an artist community to play with and in order for artists to arrive at any insight into the world we find around us we must play with these ideas until they seem to acquire a meaningful context in which to function and express ourselves. It must also be kept in mind that our interist is primarily visual culture; the world of images

I lay out my basic premise that mass media messages, have at the back of them and hold in common a program of spreading western modernist ideals on the surface but that the undercurrent or subtext is the basic desire of corporations to expand into all market places and establish a sympathetic relationship with the consumer public they are marketing to. For me this is so obvious as to almost be silly to state it such as saying that water is wet.

It is striking me in this moment that what may be causing resistance on your part is the fact that my statement is presented in the same style as a commercial message. All commercial messages are positive, unequivocal and matter of fact in the presentation of even the most conflicting information. Case in point a coffee commercial not too many years ago in the USA, that made the statement “picks you up, calms you down” Mass media commercials in general are shamelessly manipulative. Here in Mexico it is unbelievable what these companies will do to create an emotional connection with the Mexican consumers. For instance there was a cigarette commercial last year that showed a lovely romantic, nostalgic scene of a grandfatherly man putting a toy train set together on an elaborate miniature landscape that I do not think you would find in Mexico - I have never seen such a hobby shop in Mexico that sells this kind of model trains like in the USA - and then his son with his family comes in presumably visiting for the Christmas holidays and the man and his father look so happy to see each other it beings a tear to your eye and then the camera focuses on the pack of cigarettes in the foreground. Nobody is smoking in the commercial. Then some sympathetic voice says something about visiting your family for the holidays. TOTALLY SICKENING! SHAMELESS!

So this is what we see in the mass media and in between the commercials is enough content to draw a crowd for the commercial messages.

Are you telling me that this is not what you see when you look at what I am defining as the Massurreality? Maybe we need to do a reality check here.

If on the other hand, your not really concerned with the issues I am attempting to articulate but rather with the technical flaws of my paper as you see it then maybe I need to ask you to rewrite it for me so that I can see what is wrong with it because I would hate to think that the paper is so severely flawed that you can see past it to what I am actually saying or to the issues I am pointing you attention toward. - Cecil
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2 Sep 2002 - Lizbe, it is not merely a matter of style or 'reading'. My main contentions are listed earlier, and they include logical inconsistancy, tautologous statements, claims made with no analysis even as analysis is alluded to, and so forth, and have yet to be responded to.

On subjectivity: The artists subjectivity is not actually brought to centre openly. It is immersed within the text and not freely expressed. Subjectivity is only expressed 3/4 of the way through with "There are a number of interpretations of this sign and all of them are equally valid within our Massurrealist Society." What preceeds this is a series of truth claims on the ubiquitous nature of consumer culture, role of mass media and so forth. Where is the subjectitivty here? More importantly though, on what basis are these claims made?

The style in question does break away from academic cannons, but not in the way you suggest. There is a lack of grounding in theory, lack of experiential grounding, and a lack of accountability for statements made. It seems to land clearly on the side of personal polemics and hidden subjectivities that cannot be defended on any grounds, ie logical (this is logic in a Peircian semiotic sense not Descartes rationality), experiential (ethnographic detail, lived experience), reference to other similar studies (Chomskey perhaps). It is a matter of not taking for granted what is presented as truth.
- Michael
1 Sep 2002 - 1 Sep. - Michael, is it perhaps a matter of 'reading'? To me the text appeared to be very much 'up for grabs'. Does the argument need context (as suggested earlier) or is it a matter of style? Presenting in a 'collage' style opens up the possibility for new composition - a reconfiguration of the pieces will produce new meanings. The style in question here brings the 'artist' subjectivity from the margins to the center and as such it challenges the templates of traditional academic presentation.
- LIzbé
27 Aug 2002 - Cecil, it is not scientific proof or truth that I seek. Following from Foucault I reject unities that purport to be natural, universal entities that is why felt that the meanings re-presented here were too prescriptive. The task then is creating counter-representations and counter-discourses, which it seems the massurrealists wish to do. Caution must be used to not impose your version of reality and limit others in doing so.

My main contention is that statements are made within your article that universalise massureality and consumer culture. People accept by "default" their identities, yet you and the massurealist society are able to escape this bind, a logical inconsistency. Statements are made as if they are matter of fact, when they are anything but. For example, you state that "upon analysis there is no relation between one message and the next other than the fact that they share the same form of media presentation giving a visual uniformity that we assume suggests an underlying unity of purpose". What analysis? "We assume"...Who assumes? Why is it that there is no relation between one message and the next? This problem is through and through, arguments are put forth as tautologies or as if they were part of general knowledge and as such are not subject to debate. It is not blind alliegence to academic canons, but a refusal on my part to accept by default arguments with no basis. Maybe you see this as "limiting" on my part, but I see limits set by the very structure of your paper.

You claim to not be forwarding an argument, that seems false, there is an argument that runs through your paper and a "truth" that you obviously wish to defend.
- Michael
21 Aug 2002 - Greetings all,
I have been a busy fellow and have not visited for a while but see that there continues to be some dialog. I will see if I can actually expand on the paper a bit as has been suggested, I do have some ideas that could be added to discombobulate things a bit more. In the meantime I would like to point you toward some other writings at http://www.ontologicalmuseum.org/museum/lingo/index.html. Especially the article 'avant-garde?' That paper some how seem relevant. Then there is also http://hiddensphere.com/ written by me. Everything together helps to give some context to my thoughts that you seem to find perplexing.

But I think more than anything, it must be remembered that I am an artist and especially a collage artist so I am able to connect disjointed things in my mind rather easily and do not really see where the problem is that you fellows are speaking about. I am sure this is due to my lack of interest in the 'scientific method' the evidence of which you seem to require of a paper in order to enjoy it. I think that is very limiting on your part. I am not writing an argument. So I do not have the usual concerns of 'closure' which may preoccupy others in this conference. I believe that is a quality which will become increasingly difficult to justify.

I wish to bring to mind certain conditions which are apparent in the present culture and the idea of preselected identities is actually a reference to marketing and distribution theory where demographic analysis weighs very heavily on determining the corporate perception of the consuming public and the consequent politics of consumer goods. Behind this analysis rests a philosophy that is scientifically based yet conjoined with what we could call a post modernist preoccupation with perceptual relativity. This leads to some odd thinking which yield strangely irrational products, acceptable as they appear to be via " exciting and entertaining images that implant the dream of belonging in the mind of a receptive audience".

Let us take food products found in a super market as an example. They have been carefully and 'scientifically' prepared to meet certain criteria the most important of which is corporate profitability in a competitive market environment (that people like the taste and or psychological satisfaction of it more that all other similar products in its category) followed by corporate image and branding concerns, compliance with governmental and insurance regulations, and finally its shelf and distribution viability. All of this leads to the unfortunate circumstance that very little of these food products - desirable as they are made to be - when considered from the accepted health standards of today, are actually safe to eat by comparison with 'direct from nature' foods which occupy a very small portion of the supermarket's display space due to it's perishable nature and thus their low profitability and poor shelf life. Yet even these foods have fallen prey to genetic and chemical manipulation so that, in their 'new and improved' condition each fruit and vegetable selected according to certain standards of size and color and image of freshness (all other over large, over small, or over ripe specimens delegated to use in a crushed or juiced version) are gradually being improved to the point of having little or no natural and nutritional value.

Thus my distrust of a scientifically derived solution as a satisfying criteria of nearly anything. As it is employed in the practical matters of business it is a sham when seen from a wider perspective and the underlying oppressive ferocity of market logic defeats the very thing it claims to be instigating: a better, kinder and gentler world - the New World Order. The corporate slogans, though appealing, are intended to increase market share while giving the impression of being friendly and nurturing toward the end of establishing a world where such corporate products may find a broader market and harvest workers willing to serve the corporate dream of ever expanding market share.

More to follow soon... - Cecil Touchon
6 Aug 2002 - Lizbé, I must agree that the play on meaning is very interesting. A shopping cart is never only 'what it is'. There exists a potential for multiple meanings, ad infinitum. This potential exists for signs/symbols not only in new contexts but within contexts depending on subject position. The constraints that may exist within these contexts can limit the validity of certain interpretations and impose certain meanings as relevent. Foucaults work on the dynamics of discourse and power in representation of social reality has been instrumental in unveiling the mechanism by which a certain order of discourse produces permissable modes of being and thinking while disqualifying and even making others impossible.

The task then is creating counter-representations and counter-discourses, which it seems the massurrealists wish to do. Caution must be used to not impose another reality and limit others in doing so. That is why felt that the meanings re-presented here were too prescriptive and shown as natural unities, which Foucault would also hate: "...by freeing [the facts of discourse] of of all the groupings that purport to be natural, universal entities, one is able to describe other unities, but this time by means of a group of controlled decisions (Foucault 1972:29, Archaeology of Knowledge).

I definitly do not want to be seen as limiting other ways of writing or excluding other voices. My intent is to unpick the fabric of the text, not in order to ruin it, but to better understand it. There is a greater context and history that would enhance an understanding of the massurealist positon. I do feel that this should be included in the text to form a self-contained piece. - Michael
6 Aug 2002 - Lizbé, I must agree that the play on meaning is very interesting. A shopping cart is never only 'what it is'. There exists a potential for multiple meanings, ad infinitum. This potential exists for signs/symbols not only in new contexts but within contexts depending on subject position. The constraints that may exist within these contexts can limit the validity of certain interpretations and impose certain meanings as relevent. Foucaults work on the dynamics of discourse and power in representation of social reality has been instrumental in unveiling the mechanism by which a certain order of discourse produces permissable modes of being and thinking while disqualifying and even making others impossible.

The task then is creating counter-representations and counter-discourses, which it seems the massurrealists wish to do. Caution must be used to not impose another reality and limit others in doing so. That is why felt that the meanings re-presented here were too prescriptive and shown as natural unities, which Foucault would also hate: "...by freeing [the facts of discourse] of of all the groupings that purport to be natural, universal entities, one is able to describe other unities, but this time by means of a group of controlled decisions (Foucault 1972:29, Archaeology of Knowledge).

I definitly do not want to be seen as limiting other ways of writing or excluding other voices. My intent is to unpick the fabric of the text, not in order to ruin it, but to better understand it. There is a greater context and history that would enhance an understanding of the massurealist positon. I do feel that this should be included in the text to form a self-contained piece. - Michael
5 Aug 2002 - I feel moved by the Michael/David dialogue to quote Foucalt:

"What, do you imagine that I would take so much trouble and so much pleasure in writing, do you think that I would keep so persistently to my task, if I were not preparing - with a rather shaky hand - a labyrinth into which I can venture, in which I can move my discourse, opening up underground passages, forcing it to go far from itself, finding overhangs that reduce and deform its itinerary, in which I can lose myself and appear at last to eyes that I will never have to meet again. I am no doubt not the only one who writes in order to have no face."

From: The Archeology of Knowledge (1972)

I like the play on meanings of the empty chopping cart...how does the meaning change when we find the empty shopping cart abandoned at night, not ALMOST out of context (on the parking lot), but WELL out of context, next to the side of the road....a vechile to transport the posessions of the economically displaced (homeless)?
- Lizbé
29 Jul 2002 - Michael,

In response to:

“Despite this being said, conventions also contribute to mutual understanding and accountability in referencing and academic writing. Both of which are missing in this paper.”

While I would agree – hence my original message – I have a lingering worry that our concerns could all too easily shade into a process of academic colonization or be interpreted as such a maneuver. Or, put another way, I can all too easily see how, through emphasizing issues of academic clarity, we (either implicitly or explicitly) exclude other voices from this and other academic arenas. Having said that though I think the issue here is a more general one; i.e. Cecil’s paper might not fit easily into recognized modes of academic discourse but neither does it fit with more general ones either in that: i) it doesn’t explain its own context and history, ii) offers no ‘points of entry’ or reference points for those unfamiliar with massurreality, and iii) provides very few ways for the reader to either engage with its content or offer anything other than limited critiques necessarily more concerned with style than conceptual content. - David Nightingale
29 Jul 2002 - Michael,

one other point that may be relevant:

Cecil’s “paper” is, for the most part, a direct lift from his text on http://massurrealist.com/. While this isn’t particularly a problem in itself I do think that writing the text for a website and writing a paper “here” are different sorts of tasks. In particular: while this may be a virtual environment rather than a physical conference I do think that we have a responsibility to present our work in as comprehensible a fashion as possible. For me, Cecil’s paper makes too few concessions to intelligibility.

Cecil,

Rather than right another message and have to reference this one:

Do you think you could add a section to your paper that contextualises your work for those of us less familiar with this area? I’ve looked at http://massurrealist.com/ but still have little sense of the historical and social location of massurrealism. Perhaps you feel that would be inappropriate but I would find it useful, and assume others would too. - David Nightingale
29 Jul 2002 - David, I could not agree more with respect to the prescriptive meaning and obscure referencing you mention. Academic conventions exist for many reasons, even if they are tied to instituitional power relations. Despite this being said, conventions also contribute to mutual understanding and accountability in referencing and academic writing. Both of which are missing in this paper. Moreover, I agree when you state that the paper "was presented in a way that seemed to actively discourage both understanding and dialogue". There seems to be much clarification needed in the text, not just in the running commentary on the side. - Michael Francis
29 Jul 2002 - Cecil, in response to:

“David you are so right, I guess that is the reason you dropped out of the university setting”

touché ;-) - David Nightingale
29 Jul 2002 - Michael, my comments weren’t intended as a brunt dismissal of _all_ postmodern and poststructural thought, rather, they were directed at what I perceived as an obscure and impenetrable paper. However, having read Cecil’s response to your earlier message I can better conceptualise what this paper is about and how it is “located” (for want of a better expression). My problem was neatly summed up by Cecil’s response to you; i.e.

‘it is not a matter of: "What does a shopping cart mean?" but rather, "What CAN a shopping cart mean and how can we employ its use toward a higher end?"’

I initially read Cecil’s paper as prescriptive with respect to meaning, i.e. more concerned with “does” than “can”. This is probably my problem. However, Cecil’s broader discussion of the Massurealist Society (etc) - in his response to your message - did give me a better understanding of the processes within which his paper (and project) is located. I guess your point, “that a paper should be, more or less, self contained” sums up my response to Cecil’s paper; i.e. in my opinion, it was presented in a way that seemed to actively discourage both understanding and dialogue. But I guess I’m tied to a set of academic understandings and expectations that led to my rather terse response. - David Nightingale
29 Jul 2002 - David; Your brunt dismissal of post-structural and post-modern thought is ill-informed. In your dismissal would you include seminal works such as Edward Said's Orientalism, Kwame Appiah's In My Fathers House, Mudimbe's Invention of Africa, or Michel Foucault's various works, to name but a few. Maybe one should read the post-structuralists and post-modernists instead of only the critiques. I always find that I question the validity of a critique when its level of intellectual engagement is summed up by "crap". - Michael Francis
29 Jul 2002 - Cecil, good answer. I do understand that these are your symbols and interpretations of these symbols, which makes for a useful rhetorical device and in shaping consciousness. My main contention is not with the meanings you have inscribed to the symbols, but to the presentation of these meanings. Symbols have potentially infinite meanings that may be given to them as you state. The notion that the shopping cart "has several qualities which make it an appropriate vehicle upon which one may logically imagine a number of correspondences", is quite incorrect. The shopping cart has qualities that you give to it, or that others may give to it. The cart has no qualities in and of itself. Maybe this is to descend into post-structuralist arguements surrounding power relations and who speaks for whom and who is it that is ascribing meaning, but, you state that the shopping cart "is what it is: a manually operated consumer
vehicle", which I contest. It is true that a shopping cart may be used as a consumer vehicle, but it may also be a used as a child's toy, a homeless person's wagon and so on with potentially infinite regress. There are certain taken for granted assumptions in your presentation of, what is in all likelihood, the dominant use and meaning within the context presented. The logic you mention is not universal logic but inextricably tied to the context of the grocery store and to your writing.

One last thing; If you beleive that "we accept by default our individual identities chosen and built from a pre-established menu of dreams and social conventions at the center of which is our identity as a modern consumer of products" then how is it that you and the massurrealists have escaped from this? (Or have you?) The 'logical' inference is that there is no escape from this identity by "default".

My aim is not to dismiss or denigrate your article, but to seek points of clarification. Perhaps it is because I am too tied to academic conventions, but I believe that a paper should be, more or less, self contained. I agree with many of your points raised and did enjoy reading it.
- Michael Francis
28 Jul 2002 - martin, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it - Cecil Touchon
28 Jul 2002 - Michael, I present my own interpretations of course... Anything can act as a symbol and have symbolic meaning. As an artist I am free to impose and shape the meaning I invest in a symbol. The shopping cart, under the conditions mentioned in the article, offers a number of potential symbolic meanings. Using the shopping cart under these conditions as a symbol has several qualities which make it an appropriate vehicle upon which one may logically imagine a number of correspondences: It is empty, It is alone on a parking at night during hours when there is no shopping. That it is on a parking lot suggests that it had been used to carry consumer items but it's use and value, at night, is suspended until the stores open again. That the stores are closed is suggested by the fact that only the moon illuminates it, not the store lights. It is not neatly stacked with other shopping carts near the store entrance waiting to be used, it is alone, abandoned, unused and residing ALMOST outside of the context which gives it meaning (it is not in the store being used, but it is on the parking lot, the farthest reaches of the shopping cart's intended domain.

If this image is then taken up for contemplation by a group of artists (the Massurrealist Society for example) as an important image and is discussed as having some sort of intuitive, revolutionary meaning, then this intended use of the shopping cart helps to shape the dialog which surrounds it.

Of course the shopping cart in and of itself (without being on a parking lot at night under the light of a crescent moon) is not necessary a massurrealist image. It is what it is: a manually operated consumer vehicle used for collecting together various products for purchase from a retail store - usually associated with grocery stores.

However, as is the nature of avant garde artists, we invest those images which we choose and toward which we are attracted to act as vehicles for complex, ambiguous and fluid meanings as is the nature of visual images. So it is not a matter of: "What does a shopping cart mean?" but rather, "What CAN a shopping cart mean and how can we employ its use toward a higher end?"

Indeed it is true, as you suggest, that we are all shaping the Massurreality around us and as is the nature of art - we tell convincing lies to speak our truths.

Picasso said:

". . . from the point of view of art there are not concrete or abstract forms, but only forms which are more or less convincing lies. That those lies are necessary to our mental selves is beyond any doubt, as it is through them that we form our aesthetic point of view of life." Pablo Picasso (1881-1973),The Arts, 1923.

In relation to the Ox-Herding picture #8, that of an empty circle, Part of the quote goes like this... "Here, finally, we discover the consequences of this truth: that nothing is independent or permanent. All things are an integral part of the entire cosmos. All messages (concepts, dogmas) are swept away by passing time, as footprints in the sand on the sea-shore. To understand this is to accomplish the goal of abolishing all goals. For a Buddha there is no enlightenment, no Buddhahood; and samsara and nirvana are one. For Him praise and blame are the same."

The relationship here is that the shopping cart symbol represents emptiness, the moon; clarity of mind, mind that is empty of consumer desires, receptive to an inner life, that it's waning; the suggestion of impending renewal, rebirth, wakefulness. - Cecil Touchon
27 Jul 2002 - David you are so right, I guess that is the reason you dropped out of the university setting... total artificial Don't blame you. In a tight setting like the university it is easy for mental viruses to run rampant. I am an artist myself so my writing is in relation to my work as an artist and its context. I work in solitude. - Cecil Touchon
27 Jul 2002 - Oops, html doesn’t work in the comments ;-)

Much writing that appears under the designer label of poststructuralism / postmodernism is, quite bluntly, crap, a kind of academic wordplaying with no possible link to anything but the pseudo-intellectualized ghettos of the most self-promotionally avant-garde enclaves of that bastion of protectionism, the University.

Palmer, B. D. (1990). Descent into Discourse. The Reification of Language and the Writing of Social History. Philadelphia: Temple University Press, p199 (emphasis in original) - David Nightingale
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Much writing that appears under the designer label of poststructuralism / postmodernism is, quite bluntly, -B-crap-/B-, a kind of academic wordplaying with no possible link to anything but the pseudo-intellectualized ghettos of the most self-promotionally avant-garde enclaves of that bastion of protectionism, the University.-P-Palmer, B. D. (1990). -U-Descent into Discourse. The Reification of Language and the Writing of Social History-/U-. Philadelphia: Temple University Press, p199 (emphasis in original)-BR--/FONT- - David Nightingale
25 Jul 2002 - Your use of certain symbols, shooping carts etc., is potentially problematic. Whose interpretations are you presenting, I do not beleive that there is any intersubjective agreement on what an empty shopping cart means. Do you not, by implication, ascribe values and create your own massurreality to be 'consumed' by those that read you paper and come to agree with your interpretation? Is this not as much a false reality as that which is presented by mass media? I would also like to know how is it that there is a "most obvious corollary" between the shopping cart and the Zen Ox herding pictures? Is this not a constructed corrollary and not at all obvious? - Michael Francis
28 Jun 2002 - Excellent stuff! Especially liked the part about the empty shopping cart carrying the revolutionary message of the Massurrealist. - Martin
What constitutes a Massurreality?

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  Paper presented at the 8th Annual Qualitative Methods Conference: "Something for nothing"
1 May to 30 September 2002 (http://criticalmethods.org/p102.mv)
What constitutes a Massurreality?
Cecil Touchon

Contact e-mail: cecil@touchon.com




Breaking it down into three components:

MASS:

This is a reference to mass media - Television, movies, electronic, digital, computer influence, ads, print, billboard & other means as art. A new generation of artists are living in the age of mass-media, the internet, nuclear devices, and genetic engineering and the perennial question of what does it all mean? The details of daily life.

SUR:

(Super) - Sur is interesting because it can have two meanings which are opposite of each other Transcendental / Superficial. If you combine these meanings you have the completion - "Mind is Heaven and Hell. The akasha or accommodation is not so different from the sky. Sky we see at day or night: in the day there is a single torch yet all illumination; in the night there are many lamps, yet darkness. Sky at night is like the mind replete with knowledge of names and forms -- it is still in darkness -- while sky at day is like illuminated mind." (Samuel Lewis)

In this sense we are mostly discussing night conditions - many lights, yet darkness.

REALITY:

This is a reference more to Consensus Reality than any other- The one assumed to be experienced by all used by mass media - average, sensual reality, This is the one surrealism is 'surring' from.

Surrealism: of course, this is the original movement that is the basis of Massurrealism but taking into account the growth of advertising, mass media, widened perspective, Pop Art, capitalism, etc.

The Massurreality then, is an overarching surrogate humo-centric reality constructed by humanity which forms a part of and is intertwined within the Unified Field of Dogma.

The current modernist version is not unlike what Guy Debord calls the Society of the Spectacle. However, we shall refer here to the Massurreality in a more positive way than Debord's more alienating and negative critique of modern society that he called the Society of the Spectacle.

The Massurreality is gradually growing into all economic and geographic sectors of humanity driven by the ubiquitous corporate desire for constant economic expansion. This expansion brings with it the program of the continuous, mantric repetition of positive advertising messages about the commodities that these corporate entities wish to sell to the general consumer population in order to inspire in it the sense of need for the commodities which are presented. A central theme of these laudatory messages is that through the purchase of these commodities the consumer not only receives the physical product itself but, by imbibing the product, is additionally imbued with all of the positive traits shown in the commercials and is tacitly accepted as a member of modern society.

But wait! That's not all.

In order for corporations to manufacture a need for their products there must first be in place the instruments of communicating their persuasive arguments regarding those products which will bequeath the modern dream upon those who are assumed to so badly be in need of it and who, ironicly, come to regard themselves has having developed such a need.

These instruments of communication, in their most powerful form - television and radio - provide exciting and entertaining images that implant the dream of belonging in the mind of a receptive audience. This milieu of tele-visual mass media communication provides what has become the bi product of the corporate desire for expansion which is the knowledge of the cultural envelope - via news, entertainment and sporting events - that are provided as content between the central purpose of tele-visual media namely to transmit corporate advertising messages. Thus, the corporate process of manufacture, distribution and retail availability of the wide range of advertised products of modern society is the backbone of this spreading denatured, refined and enriched massurreality in which most are engulfed. The 'content' serving to flesh out the cultural context in which products may find their consumer base.

Through this massurreality we accept by default our individual identities chosen and built from a pre-established menu of dreams and social conventions at the center of which is our identity as a modern consumer of products. The messages within our massurreality are all orchestrated before us in a cacophony of seeming related information of various types.

However, upon analysis there is no relation between one message and the next other than the fact that they share the same form of media presentation giving a visual uniformity that we assume suggests an underlying unity of purpose.

What better symbol then, for this human condition than that of the empty shopping cart - an empty shopping cart on an empty parking lot at night with a waning moon. As a sign, this image carries the revolutionary message of the Massurrealist. There are a number of interpretations of this sign and all of them are equally valid within our Massurrealist Society. Let us survey some of the possibilities.

The first and most obvious corollary that may be made is the image of the empty shopping cart and that of the Ox herding pictures from the Zen tradition. In particular the 8th picture

http://www.jaysquare.com/ljohnson/ox-herding.html

Additionally we can think of the massurreality as a contemporary appearance of Maya as it is thought of in the Hindu tradition:

http://hinduwebsite.com/beliefinmaya.htm

The empty shopping cart in this instance also represents enlightenment and to empty one's self of elusive and illusionary desires and concepts artificially implanted in our minds through the massurreality we are immersed in.

The empty shopping cart symbolizes the mind emptied of desire; the self emptied of identity and the futility of reliance on the emptiness and bankruptcy of the material consumer culture, the commodities of which act in general as the talismans and icons that give us comport in our Massurrealist identities.

The waning crescent moon supports this conclusion since it is a symbol of receptivity and turning within symbolizing our nearly coming full circle in our relationship with the world as consumer, as spectator and participant in the construction and maintenance of the massurreality we find our selves in and seeking to master.

This by no means exhausts the meanings of this sign but serves only as a beginning of the dialog on the topic.

http://massurrealist.com/

 
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21 May 2003 - Thank you for your comments once again. I am sorry to hear that you continue to be bitterly disappointed by what I have said and how I have gone about saying it. I am afraid I seem to be incapable of the level of verbal clarity that you require. Is my linkage between shopping carts and ancient traditions the issue? Upon a deeper inspection you may notice that I am not referring so much to the ancient tradition per se as to a spiritual condition recognized since ancient times in those images. The Ox Herding pictures are both visual and widely known. These are the main reasons for their usage and the referenced image of emptiness and all that it means in relation to a shopping card seems amply explained to me but maybe not.

You assume that I see the ‘people’ as dupes. I don’t believe I make any such judgment but instead clearly state that I see the massurreality in a more positive context than, for instance, Guy Debord.

The entirely of my paper – after all - is to give a rough definition of the term “Massurreality and I do not believe that I make any claim that any member of the Massurrealist Society International operates outside of this ‘envelope’ described as the massurreality nor do I offer any solution other than to ponder the drawing to which I refer which currently may be seen at http://massurrealism.com/ in relation to the possible technique of achieving a certain empty condition.

As far as “iconic meaningfulness” I said precisely what I meant. An icon is a visual image that conveys symbolic significance – even if that significance is yet to be fleshed out and actually, I was making references to Taoism (as compared to Buddhism) at the location to which I believe you refer.

The obvious corollary to which I refer between the Ox Herding Picture (#8) and the shopping cart is the quality of ‘emptiness’. Yes, I see what you mean, perhaps I should explain that in greater detail. I personally would rather have a person look at the shopping cart and look at the 8th image and then make the leap without shaping the experience too much but perhaps more context is required.

Anyway, one of these days, if I ever have the time to do so, I may attempt to raise this paper out of the dismal condition it seems to be in and use your suggestions and objections as a way to shape its future incarnation. Again, Than you for your comments.
- Cecil Touchon
12 May 2003 - I see you have selected a quote of mine and used it out of context. The point is not whether or not 'your' interpretations are valid. Indeed, they cannot be refuted on those grounds. The issue is with your linkage between shopping carts and ancient traditions. You see the majority of people as dupes in the consumer world, but somehow the massurealists can escape this through weak interpretations and a misunderstanding of ancient traditions. Random connections and artistic pretense do nothing to change the world for the better. Your 'paper' does not allow for other interpretations nor give any explanation as to how these interpretations are arrived at. You also state that you wish to give some "iconic meaningfulness to the shopping cart". I assume you actually mean symbolic, as icons merely link signified with signifier at the first order of signification. That is, an icon of a shopping cart physically resembles a shopping cart. Following from that you have indexical readings, such as the uses of a shopping cart, which then links to the third order of signification, the symbolic. This level brings in the ideological, such as capitalism, or in your case Buddhism. If you are going to use semiotics then at least do so correctly.

You have yet to arrive at an answer as to why the ox-herding picture is "the most obvious corollary"? Could this not be contextualised somewhat? Second major problem is the notion that identities are accepted by default - yet you talk of revolutionary redefining and so forth. How is this possible under such oppressive circumstances of mass mediated messages and consumer culture? Apparently a simple link to ox-herding pictures from the Buddhist tradition (not Zen, it is not a tradition but part of one) liberates us????

The logical inconsistancy within your text refutes itself. If identities are accepted by default and people are powerless then one cannot escape that reality or redefine it to mean something positive.

18 Mar 2003 - Dear Michael,
you wrote:"Do not make such grandiose claims that refute personal subjectivities and other interpretations, your own are not the only one's that are valid. "

You are a funny guy.
12 Feb 2003 - The 'qualities' that you list are not natural but culturally/socially contrived to suit certain purposes. Their existence is based solely upon a function assigned to shopping carts. My issue is not to whether or not these qualities 'exist', but to the link with ancient traditions. It appears to be only 'artistic' pretense and a weak attempt to be deep and meaningful. I would suggest some engagement with comments made over the past 8 months and not a knee-jerk reaction and defensive posturing. The claims and links made throughout your paper are tenuous at best and made up at random by yourself at worst. Do not make such grandiose claims that refute personal subjectivities and other interpretations, your own are not the only one's that are valid. No person's identity is accepted by default as you claim. Identities are always contested - you and the 'massurrealists are not the only one's with such an ability. As for me rewriting your paper for you, I cannot be bothered to engage further with what can only be deemed to be intellectually trite. - Michael
24 Oct 2002 - I am sorry that it has taken me so long to reply.
Firstly I feel a need to address this shopping cart issue because it is a central aspect of this paper.
This statement on your part Michael; "The cart has no qualities in and of itself." is clearly an untruth and perhaps your assumption that your statement contains some truth which can be argued convincingly causes you to carry on a needless argument as it is an argument without basis if it rests upon the aforementioned statement.
A shopping cart has very clear qualities and very specific intended uses let us take a partial inventory of them and let this serve as an analysis
1) a shopping cart whether made of plastic or metal is normally made out of an open grid or netting. This is for preventing certain troubles.
a) I assume that they include the intention to allow liquids spilled in the cart or rain which might fall into a cart from collecting in the cart.
b) for the purpose of being durable yet light weight
2) a shopping cart has a horizontal handle designed to be comfortable for women to push around the store isles and a basket like space which is intended to hold consumer products and small child fledgling consumers. (Items are often stacked in stores to encourage small children to desire them from their perspective as a passenger in the shopping cart.)
3) a shopping card has four small wheels, their size and design are intended for use on a flat smooth floor and to be unwieldy on rougher surfaces to discourage use outside of the intended environment (when the user is no longer functioning as a consumer) and in some places the wheels and the parameter of the parking area are designed in such a way as to prevent the carts from being rolled outside of the area.
4) shopping carts have a wedge design with a swinging back wall so that the carts may be horizontally 'stacked' or nested within each other for the purpose of compact storage when not in use and so that store attendants may gather them together on the parking lots and bring them back to the storage area with the greatest possible efficiency
5) a shopping cart is smooth to the touch and durable, relatively immune to the elements and easy to clean for reasons of maintaining the image of newness as well as serving a public hygiene purpose.
6) shopping carts can be so big or so small but only within a very clear practical range because of the intended use they are designed for.
7) shopping carts require a certain context for their use,
a) the fact that people drive cars
b) the fact that there are large stores with many packaged products which imply that a consumer will buy more consumer objects than can be carried in the hand.
In short, a shopping cart is designed to serve a wide variety of related functions, to encourage certain activities and to discourage certain other activities. These are qualities and they are qualities which are very consciously designed onto the shopping cart's physical nature. These qualities are irrefutable and it is futile to argue to the contrary.

Given these qualities, as you mention, there are possible poetic interpretations which can be drawn which may be regarded as plausible and others which are less so. I have in my paper drawn corollaries from ancient spiritual traditions that serve to give an iconic meaningfulness to the shopping cart. (Let me add that the netting of the cart can easily carry the image from the Tao te Ching in the last lines of chapter #73 “Sparsely meshed is Harmony's net, yet, nothing escapes it.” or “Fate's net is vast and its mesh is coarse, Yet none escape it.” or “Heaven's net is vast. It is loose. Yet nothing slips through.”)

So taking in the big picture… My paper is in essence an attempt to briefly give a definition to the term ‘massurreality’ but doing so I am setting the stage for the further development of ideas generated using this definition as a basis of what constitutes the general range of inquiry on the topic. Since I am acting as Webster so to speak I may define the term in in whatever manor I deem to adequately articulate what I see as the most useful artistic meaning of this term. Without such a definition, the idea of a massurreality is too ambiguous to work with as a starting point, there is nothing graspable for an artist community to play with and in order for artists to arrive at any insight into the world we find around us we must play with these ideas until they seem to acquire a meaningful context in which to function and express ourselves. It must also be kept in mind that our interist is primarily visual culture; the world of images

I lay out my basic premise that mass media messages, have at the back of them and hold in common a program of spreading western modernist ideals on the surface but that the undercurrent or subtext is the basic desire of corporations to expand into all market places and establish a sympathetic relationship with the consumer public they are marketing to. For me this is so obvious as to almost be silly to state it such as saying that water is wet.

It is striking me in this moment that what may be causing resistance on your part is the fact that my statement is presented in the same style as a commercial message. All commercial messages are positive, unequivocal and matter of fact in the presentation of even the most conflicting information. Case in point a coffee commercial not too many years ago in the USA, that made the statement “picks you up, calms you down” Mass media commercials in general are shamelessly manipulative. Here in Mexico it is unbelievable what these companies will do to create an emotional connection with the Mexican consumers. For instance there was a cigarette commercial last year that showed a lovely romantic, nostalgic scene of a grandfatherly man putting a toy train set together on an elaborate miniature landscape that I do not think you would find in Mexico - I have never seen such a hobby shop in Mexico that sells this kind of model trains like in the USA - and then his son with his family comes in presumably visiting for the Christmas holidays and the man and his father look so happy to see each other it beings a tear to your eye and then the camera focuses on the pack of cigarettes in the foreground. Nobody is smoking in the commercial. Then some sympathetic voice says something about visiting your family for the holidays. TOTALLY SICKENING! SHAMELESS!

So this is what we see in the mass media and in between the commercials is enough content to draw a crowd for the commercial messages.

Are you telling me that this is not what you see when you look at what I am defining as the Massurreality? Maybe we need to do a reality check here.

If on the other hand, your not really concerned with the issues I am attempting to articulate but rather with the technical flaws of my paper as you see it then maybe I need to ask you to rewrite it for me so that I can see what is wrong with it because I would hate to think that the paper is so severely flawed that you can see past it to what I am actually saying or to the issues I am pointing you attention toward. - Cecil
4 Sep 2002 - Michael said: "My main contentions are listed earlier, and they include logical inconsistancy, tautologous statements, claims made with no analysis even as analysis is alluded to, and so forth" - but these are exactly the things I _like_ about the paper. - Martin
2 Sep 2002 - Lizbe, it is not merely a matter of style or 'reading'. My main contentions are listed earlier, and they include logical inconsistancy, tautologous statements, claims made with no analysis even as analysis is alluded to, and so forth, and have yet to be responded to.

On subjectivity: The artists subjectivity is not actually brought to centre openly. It is immersed within the text and not freely expressed. Subjectivity is only expressed 3/4 of the way through with "There are a number of interpretations of this sign and all of them are equally valid within our Massurrealist Society." What preceeds this is a series of truth claims on the ubiquitous nature of consumer culture, role of mass media and so forth. Where is the subjectitivty here? More importantly though, on what basis are these claims made?

The style in question does break away from academic cannons, but not in the way you suggest. There is a lack of grounding in theory, lack of experiential grounding, and a lack of accountability for statements made. It seems to land clearly on the side of personal polemics and hidden subjectivities that cannot be defended on any grounds, ie logical (this is logic in a Peircian semiotic sense not Descartes rationality), experiential (ethnographic detail, lived experience), reference to other similar studies (Chomskey perhaps). It is a matter of not taking for granted what is presented as truth.
- Michael
1 Sep 2002 - 1 Sep. - Michael, is it perhaps a matter of 'reading'? To me the text appeared to be very much 'up for grabs'. Does the argument need context (as suggested earlier) or is it a matter of style? Presenting in a 'collage' style opens up the possibility for new composition - a reconfiguration of the pieces will produce new meanings. The style in question here brings the 'artist' subjectivity from the margins to the center and as such it challenges the templates of traditional academic presentation.
- LIzbé
27 Aug 2002 - Cecil, it is not scientific proof or truth that I seek. Following from Foucault I reject unities that purport to be natural, universal entities that is why felt that the meanings re-presented here were too prescriptive. The task then is creating counter-representations and counter-discourses, which it seems the massurrealists wish to do. Caution must be used to not impose your version of reality and limit others in doing so.

My main contention is that statements are made within your article that universalise massureality and consumer culture. People accept by "default" their identities, yet you and the massurealist society are able to escape this bind, a logical inconsistency. Statements are made as if they are matter of fact, when they are anything but. For example, you state that "upon analysis there is no relation between one message and the next other than the fact that they share the same form of media presentation giving a visual uniformity that we assume suggests an underlying unity of purpose". What analysis? "We assume"...Who assumes? Why is it that there is no relation between one message and the next? This problem is through and through, arguments are put forth as tautologies or as if they were part of general knowledge and as such are not subject to debate. It is not blind alliegence to academic canons, but a refusal on my part to accept by default arguments with no basis. Maybe you see this as "limiting" on my part, but I see limits set by the very structure of your paper.

You claim to not be forwarding an argument, that seems false, there is an argument that runs through your paper and a "truth" that you obviously wish to defend.
- Michael
21 Aug 2002 - Greetings all,
I have been a busy fellow and have not visited for a while but see that there continues to be some dialog. I will see if I can actually expand on the paper a bit as has been suggested, I do have some ideas that could be added to discombobulate things a bit more. In the meantime I would like to point you toward some other writings at http://www.ontologicalmuseum.org/museum/lingo/index.html. Especially the article 'avant-garde?' That paper some how seem relevant. Then there is also http://hiddensphere.com/ written by me. Everything together helps to give some context to my thoughts that you seem to find perplexing.

But I think more than anything, it must be remembered that I am an artist and especially a collage artist so I am able to connect disjointed things in my mind rather easily and do not really see where the problem is that you fellows are speaking about. I am sure this is due to my lack of interest in the 'scientific method' the evidence of which you seem to require of a paper in order to enjoy it. I think that is very limiting on your part. I am not writing an argument. So I do not have the usual concerns of 'closure' which may preoccupy others in this conference. I believe that is a quality which will become increasingly difficult to justify.

I wish to bring to mind certain conditions which are apparent in the present culture and the idea of preselected identities is actually a reference to marketing and distribution theory where demographic analysis weighs very heavily on determining the corporate perception of the consuming public and the consequent politics of consumer goods. Behind this analysis rests a philosophy that is scientifically based yet conjoined with what we could call a post modernist preoccupation with perceptual relativity. This leads to some odd thinking which yield strangely irrational products, acceptable as they appear to be via " exciting and entertaining images that implant the dream of belonging in the mind of a receptive audience".

Let us take food products found in a super market as an example. They have been carefully and 'scientifically' prepared to meet certain criteria the most important of which is corporate profitability in a competitive market environment (that people like the taste and or psychological satisfaction of it more that all other similar products in its category) followed by corporate image and branding concerns, compliance with governmental and insurance regulations, and finally its shelf and distribution viability. All of this leads to the unfortunate circumstance that very little of these food products - desirable as they are made to be - when considered from the accepted health standards of today, are actually safe to eat by comparison with 'direct from nature' foods which occupy a very small portion of the supermarket's display space due to it's perishable nature and thus their low profitability and poor shelf life. Yet even these foods have fallen prey to genetic and chemical manipulation so that, in their 'new and improved' condition each fruit and vegetable selected according to certain standards of size and color and image of freshness (all other over large, over small, or over ripe specimens delegated to use in a crushed or juiced version) are gradually being improved to the point of having little or no natural and nutritional value.

Thus my distrust of a scientifically derived solution as a satisfying criteria of nearly anything. As it is employed in the practical matters of business it is a sham when seen from a wider perspective and the underlying oppressive ferocity of market logic defeats the very thing it claims to be instigating: a better, kinder and gentler world - the New World Order. The corporate slogans, though appealing, are intended to increase market share while giving the impression of being friendly and nurturing toward the end of establishing a world where such corporate products may find a broader market and harvest workers willing to serve the corporate dream of ever expanding market share.

More to follow soon... - Cecil Touchon
6 Aug 2002 - Lizbé, I must agree that the play on meaning is very interesting. A shopping cart is never only 'what it is'. There exists a potential for multiple meanings, ad infinitum. This potential exists for signs/symbols not only in new contexts but within contexts depending on subject position. The constraints that may exist within these contexts can limit the validity of certain interpretations and impose certain meanings as relevent. Foucaults work on the dynamics of discourse and power in representation of social reality has been instrumental in unveiling the mechanism by which a certain order of discourse produces permissable modes of being and thinking while disqualifying and even making others impossible.

The task then is creating counter-representations and counter-discourses, which it seems the massurrealists wish to do. Caution must be used to not impose another reality and limit others in doing so. That is why felt that the meanings re-presented here were too prescriptive and shown as natural unities, which Foucault would also hate: "...by freeing [the facts of discourse] of of all the groupings that purport to be natural, universal entities, one is able to describe other unities, but this time by means of a group of controlled decisions (Foucault 1972:29, Archaeology of Knowledge).

I definitly do not want to be seen as limiting other ways of writing or excluding other voices. My intent is to unpick the fabric of the text, not in order to ruin it, but to better understand it. There is a greater context and history that would enhance an understanding of the massurealist positon. I do feel that this should be included in the text to form a self-contained piece. - Michael
6 Aug 2002 - Lizbé, I must agree that the play on meaning is very interesting. A shopping cart is never only 'what it is'. There exists a potential for multiple meanings, ad infinitum. This potential exists for signs/symbols not only in new contexts but within contexts depending on subject position. The constraints that may exist within these contexts can limit the validity of certain interpretations and impose certain meanings as relevent. Foucaults work on the dynamics of discourse and power in representation of social reality has been instrumental in unveiling the mechanism by which a certain order of discourse produces permissable modes of being and thinking while disqualifying and even making others impossible.

The task then is creating counter-representations and counter-discourses, which it seems the massurrealists wish to do. Caution must be used to not impose another reality and limit others in doing so. That is why felt that the meanings re-presented here were too prescriptive and shown as natural unities, which Foucault would also hate: "...by freeing [the facts of discourse] of of all the groupings that purport to be natural, universal entities, one is able to describe other unities, but this time by means of a group of controlled decisions (Foucault 1972:29, Archaeology of Knowledge).

I definitly do not want to be seen as limiting other ways of writing or excluding other voices. My intent is to unpick the fabric of the text, not in order to ruin it, but to better understand it. There is a greater context and history that would enhance an understanding of the massurealist positon. I do feel that this should be included in the text to form a self-contained piece. - Michael
5 Aug 2002 - I feel moved by the Michael/David dialogue to quote Foucalt:

"What, do you imagine that I would take so much trouble and so much pleasure in writing, do you think that I would keep so persistently to my task, if I were not preparing - with a rather shaky hand - a labyrinth into which I can venture, in which I can move my discourse, opening up underground passages, forcing it to go far from itself, finding overhangs that reduce and deform its itinerary, in which I can lose myself and appear at last to eyes that I will never have to meet again. I am no doubt not the only one who writes in order to have no face."

From: The Archeology of Knowledge (1972)

I like the play on meanings of the empty chopping cart...how does the meaning change when we find the empty shopping cart abandoned at night, not ALMOST out of context (on the parking lot), but WELL out of context, next to the side of the road....a vechile to transport the posessions of the economically displaced (homeless)?
- Lizbé
29 Jul 2002 - Michael,

In response to:

“Despite this being said, conventions also contribute to mutual understanding and accountability in referencing and academic writing. Both of which are missing in this paper.”

While I would agree – hence my original message – I have a lingering worry that our concerns could all too easily shade into a process of academic colonization or be interpreted as such a maneuver. Or, put another way, I can all too easily see how, through emphasizing issues of academic clarity, we (either implicitly or explicitly) exclude other voices from this and other academic arenas. Having said that though I think the issue here is a more general one; i.e. Cecil’s paper might not fit easily into recognized modes of academic discourse but neither does it fit with more general ones either in that: i) it doesn’t explain its own context and history, ii) offers no ‘points of entry’ or reference points for those unfamiliar with massurreality, and iii) provides very few ways for the reader to either engage with its content or offer anything other than limited critiques necessarily more concerned with style than conceptual content. - David Nightingale
29 Jul 2002 - Michael,

one other point that may be relevant:

Cecil’s “paper” is, for the most part, a direct lift from his text on http://massurrealist.com/. While this isn’t particularly a problem in itself I do think that writing the text for a website and writing a paper “here” are different sorts of tasks. In particular: while this may be a virtual environment rather than a physical conference I do think that we have a responsibility to present our work in as comprehensible a fashion as possible. For me, Cecil’s paper makes too few concessions to intelligibility.

Cecil,

Rather than right another message and have to reference this one:

Do you think you could add a section to your paper that contextualises your work for those of us less familiar with this area? I’ve looked at http://massurrealist.com/ but still have little sense of the historical and social location of massurrealism. Perhaps you feel that would be inappropriate but I would find it useful, and assume others would too. - David Nightingale
29 Jul 2002 - David, I could not agree more with respect to the prescriptive meaning and obscure referencing you mention. Academic conventions exist for many reasons, even if they are tied to instituitional power relations. Despite this being said, conventions also contribute to mutual understanding and accountability in referencing and academic writing. Both of which are missing in this paper. Moreover, I agree when you state that the paper "was presented in a way that seemed to actively discourage both understanding and dialogue". There seems to be much clarification needed in the text, not just in the running commentary on the side. - Michael Francis
29 Jul 2002 - Cecil, in response to:

“David you are so right, I guess that is the reason you dropped out of the university setting”

touché ;-) - David Nightingale
29 Jul 2002 - Michael, my comments weren’t intended as a brunt dismissal of _all_ postmodern and poststructural thought, rather, they were directed at what I perceived as an obscure and impenetrable paper. However, having read Cecil’s response to your earlier message I can better conceptualise what this paper is about and how it is “located” (for want of a better expression). My problem was neatly summed up by Cecil’s response to you; i.e.

‘it is not a matter of: "What does a shopping cart mean?" but rather, "What CAN a shopping cart mean and how can we employ its use toward a higher end?"’

I initially read Cecil’s paper as prescriptive with respect to meaning, i.e. more concerned with “does” than “can”. This is probably my problem. However, Cecil’s broader discussion of the Massurealist Society (etc) - in his response to your message - did give me a better understanding of the processes within which his paper (and project) is located. I guess your point, “that a paper should be, more or less, self contained” sums up my response to Cecil’s paper; i.e. in my opinion, it was presented in a way that seemed to actively discourage both understanding and dialogue. But I guess I’m tied to a set of academic understandings and expectations that led to my rather terse response. - David Nightingale
29 Jul 2002 - David; Your brunt dismissal of post-structural and post-modern thought is ill-informed. In your dismissal would you include seminal works such as Edward Said's Orientalism, Kwame Appiah's In My Fathers House, Mudimbe's Invention of Africa, or Michel Foucault's various works, to name but a few. Maybe one should read the post-structuralists and post-modernists instead of only the critiques. I always find that I question the validity of a critique when its level of intellectual engagement is summed up by "crap". - Michael Francis
29 Jul 2002 - Cecil, good answer. I do understand that these are your symbols and interpretations of these symbols, which makes for a useful rhetorical device and in shaping consciousness. My main contention is not with the meanings you have inscribed to the symbols, but to the presentation of these meanings. Symbols have potentially infinite meanings that may be given to them as you state. The notion that the shopping cart "has several qualities which make it an appropriate vehicle upon which one may logically imagine a number of correspondences", is quite incorrect. The shopping cart has qualities that you give to it, or that others may give to it. The cart has no qualities in and of itself. Maybe this is to descend into post-structuralist arguements surrounding power relations and who speaks for whom and who is it that is ascribing meaning, but, you state that the shopping cart "is what it is: a manually operated consumer
vehicle", which I contest. It is true that a shopping cart may be used as a consumer vehicle, but it may also be a used as a child's toy, a homeless person's wagon and so on with potentially infinite regress. There are certain taken for granted assumptions in your presentation of, what is in all likelihood, the dominant use and meaning within the context presented. The logic you mention is not universal logic but inextricably tied to the context of the grocery store and to your writing.

One last thing; If you beleive that "we accept by default our individual identities chosen and built from a pre-established menu of dreams and social conventions at the center of which is our identity as a modern consumer of products" then how is it that you and the massurrealists have escaped from this? (Or have you?) The 'logical' inference is that there is no escape from this identity by "default".

My aim is not to dismiss or denigrate your article, but to seek points of clarification. Perhaps it is because I am too tied to academic conventions, but I believe that a paper should be, more or less, self contained. I agree with many of your points raised and did enjoy reading it.
- Michael Francis
28 Jul 2002 - martin, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it - Cecil Touchon
28 Jul 2002 - Michael, I present my own interpretations of course... Anything can act as a symbol and have symbolic meaning. As an artist I am free to impose and shape the meaning I invest in a symbol. The shopping cart, under the conditions mentioned in the article, offers a number of potential symbolic meanings. Using the shopping cart under these conditions as a symbol has several qualities which make it an appropriate vehicle upon which one may logically imagine a number of correspondences: It is empty, It is alone on a parking at night during hours when there is no shopping. That it is on a parking lot suggests that it had been used to carry consumer items but it's use and value, at night, is suspended until the stores open again. That the stores are closed is suggested by the fact that only the moon illuminates it, not the store lights. It is not neatly stacked with other shopping carts near the store entrance waiting to be used, it is alone, abandoned, unused and residing ALMOST outside of the context which gives it meaning (it is not in the store being used, but it is on the parking lot, the farthest reaches of the shopping cart's intended domain.

If this image is then taken up for contemplation by a group of artists (the Massurrealist Society for example) as an important image and is discussed as having some sort of intuitive, revolutionary meaning, then this intended use of the shopping cart helps to shape the dialog which surrounds it.

Of course the shopping cart in and of itself (without being on a parking lot at night under the light of a crescent moon) is not necessary a massurrealist image. It is what it is: a manually operated consumer vehicle used for collecting together various products for purchase from a retail store - usually associated with grocery stores.

However, as is the nature of avant garde artists, we invest those images which we choose and toward which we are attracted to act as vehicles for complex, ambiguous and fluid meanings as is the nature of visual images. So it is not a matter of: "What does a shopping cart mean?" but rather, "What CAN a shopping cart mean and how can we employ its use toward a higher end?"

Indeed it is true, as you suggest, that we are all shaping the Massurreality around us and as is the nature of art - we tell convincing lies to speak our truths.

Picasso said:

". . . from the point of view of art there are not concrete or abstract forms, but only forms which are more or less convincing lies. That those lies are necessary to our mental selves is beyond any doubt, as it is through them that we form our aesthetic point of view of life." Pablo Picasso (1881-1973),The Arts, 1923.

In relation to the Ox-Herding picture #8, that of an empty circle, Part of the quote goes like this... "Here, finally, we discover the consequences of this truth: that nothing is independent or permanent. All things are an integral part of the entire cosmos. All messages (concepts, dogmas) are swept away by passing time, as footprints in the sand on the sea-shore. To understand this is to accomplish the goal of abolishing all goals. For a Buddha there is no enlightenment, no Buddhahood; and samsara and nirvana are one. For Him praise and blame are the same."

The relationship here is that the shopping cart symbol represents emptiness, the moon; clarity of mind, mind that is empty of consumer desires, receptive to an inner life, that it's waning; the suggestion of impending renewal, rebirth, wakefulness. - Cecil Touchon
27 Jul 2002 - David you are so right, I guess that is the reason you dropped out of the university setting... total artificial Don't blame you. In a tight setting like the university it is easy for mental viruses to run rampant. I am an artist myself so my writing is in relation to my work as an artist and its context. I work in solitude. - Cecil Touchon
27 Jul 2002 - Oops, html doesn’t work in the comments ;-)

Much writing that appears under the designer label of poststructuralism / postmodernism is, quite bluntly, crap, a kind of academic wordplaying with no possible link to anything but the pseudo-intellectualized ghettos of the most self-promotionally avant-garde enclaves of that bastion of protectionism, the University.

Palmer, B. D. (1990). Descent into Discourse. The Reification of Language and the Writing of Social History. Philadelphia: Temple University Press, p199 (emphasis in original) - David Nightingale
27 Jul 2002 - -FONT SIZE="-1" COLOR="#3366CC" FACE="Verdana, Arial, Geneva"-
Much writing that appears under the designer label of poststructuralism / postmodernism is, quite bluntly, -B-crap-/B-, a kind of academic wordplaying with no possible link to anything but the pseudo-intellectualized ghettos of the most self-promotionally avant-garde enclaves of that bastion of protectionism, the University.-P-Palmer, B. D. (1990). -U-Descent into Discourse. The Reification of Language and the Writing of Social History-/U-. Philadelphia: Temple University Press, p199 (emphasis in original)-BR--/FONT- - David Nightingale
25 Jul 2002 - Your use of certain symbols, shooping carts etc., is potentially problematic. Whose interpretations are you presenting, I do not beleive that there is any intersubjective agreement on what an empty shopping cart means. Do you not, by implication, ascribe values and create your own massurreality to be 'consumed' by those that read you paper and come to agree with your interpretation? Is this not as much a false reality as that which is presented by mass media? I would also like to know how is it that there is a "most obvious corollary" between the shopping cart and the Zen Ox herding pictures? Is this not a constructed corrollary and not at all obvious? - Michael Francis
28 Jun 2002 - Excellent stuff! Especially liked the part about the empty shopping cart carrying the revolutionary message of the Massurrealist. - Martin